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- The Joyes or Joyce name is of Anglo-Norman origin. When the Norman (French) invaded England, English versions of French names resulted. The early Joyes families were closely tied to the Welch and English princes.
In the late 13th century, Thomas Joyes sailed with his fleet from Wales and became the first of the Joyces to arrive in Ireland. Onorah O'Brien, daughter of a local chief, became his wife and together they sailed to the western part of Connemarra where they settled. Their son eventually acquired additional lands which became known as Joyce Country and many Joyce families continue to live in this part of Co. Galway.
The Joyces are known as one the the "Tribes of Galway", a name given to a group of prominent and old Galway families. Originally, however, it was a negative term coined in the 1600s by the English who used it to refer to these Irish families who stuck together against the English.
Coyne (Kyne, O'Coyne, Ilcoyne) is a name of Irish origin from Connemarra. One need only read the old parish records to realize how common both Joyce and Coyne are in this part of Ireland.
I have reached the part of Debby's writtings that I cannot sort out to put with it's proper note pages, or even figure out who they belong to, so I'm going to record the rest of her writtings here so that they are at least not lost.
Bridie Kinsley also lived in Brooklyn and had three children.
One well known 'cousin' we cannot overlook is Adolphe Menjou, a film star of the 1930 and 40s. Born in Pittsburgh, his mother was Nora Joyce who was originally from Ungwee. (Her photo appears in the second edition of PITTSBURGH; THE STORY OF AN AMERICAN CITY by Stefan Lorant). His father Henry Menjou owned a restaurant in the Hill District where relatives would work as they arrived from Ireland.
While everyone remembers being told Adolphe was a cousin, no one knew how he was related. Based on a few clues from letters, my guess would be the Nora Menjou's father, Patrick Joyce, may have been a brother of our Peter Joyce, making Nora and Honora first cousins. Coynes were also supposed to be related by marriage to Nora's mother Mary Faherty. Michael Coyne's sister married a Faherty.
There is lots more credit to be given to Debby, but I have so many other things to record that I must get on with my own research.
This research was written by Debby Rabold of Pittsburgh, PA. And all info on the early descendants of Michael Coyne and Honora Joyce are also her credits.
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